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  Jehovah's Witnesses Are Funny!

  by mutinyinheaven in

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  here's a great review of confessions of a teenage jesus jerk:.

  http://open.salon.com/blog/jd_sugar/2010/09/04/jehovahs_witnesses_are_funny_at_least_this_former_one_is.

  the writer either really did his research or has some jw experience.. .

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  Bungi Bill

  I would say "funny peculiar" rather than "funny ha-ha."

  Bill.
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  Jehovahs Witnesses taught that Armageddon would occur in 1914,1915,1918,1921,1925,1932,1941 and 1975. Who is the father

  by Little Imp in

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  i saw a very long thread on answerbag answering the above question in which there are several jws responding and denyng vehemently what is said in the question.

  in some places being quite rude to people.

  the dialogue highlighted yellow is me, the text highlighted blue is someone who is agreeing that the jws did preach this.

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  Bungi Bill

  Nickolas,

  Thanks for that.

  I well remember that speech - recorded copies were played in all the Kingdom Halls shortly afterwards.

  Notice, though, how he cherry-picks his quotes from the 1966 book Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God.(pg. 29-35):

  - That book actually went a little bit further than giving Adam's birthday as sometime during the year 1975.

  - It included a certain phrase that left the thought hanging there that Armegeddon would coincide with this.

  - The words "how appropriate it would be " were used to describe the outcome if God were to end the system at the time of Adam's 6000th "birthday."

  Certainly, that is impression that anyone reading that book would have got:

  I know:

  - My mother received a copy of that book, just after it was released. I can remember like it was yesterday her conclusion after she had finished reading it, i.e. "Armegeddon is going to happen in 1975." My mother was by nature a cautious person, who would never make any sort of a remark until she had thoroughly thought the matter through - yet that is what she deduced from what the Watchtower Society said in that publication.

  This was obviously the conclusion the WTS wanted us to arrive at.

  Yet, in his speech of Feb 10, 1975, F.W. Franz tried to have us believe that the Life Everlasting in the Freedom of the Sons of God book did no more than give 1975 as the 6000th anniversary of Adam's creation.

  It would seem that the rewriting of the history about 1975 started when that year had hardly begun - and has not stopped since!

  Bill.
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  Jehovahs Witnesses taught that Armageddon would occur in 1914,1915,1918,1921,1925,1932,1941 and 1975. Who is the father

  by Little Imp in

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  i saw a very long thread on answerbag answering the above question in which there are several jws responding and denyng vehemently what is said in the question.

  in some places being quite rude to people.

  the dialogue highlighted yellow is me, the text highlighted blue is someone who is agreeing that the jws did preach this.

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  Bungi Bill

  Their own literature condemns them - no matter how hard they try to wriggle out of it afterwards:

  - One of many examples being TheWatchtower of August 15 1968, which even ran an article entitled "Why are you looking forward to 1975?"

  (i) The title itself is enough to convey to the reader that "the WTS says Armegeddon will happen in 1975."

  (ii) Furthermore, the contents of that same article only reinforced this idea.

  (I was an avid reader of their literature in those years, and well remember this article).

  Now the JWs will have you believe that the Watchtower Society not ever claimed that the end was coming in 1975:

  - if that were true, then they (the WTS) did a woeful job of communicating it!

  Bill.
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  Did you blab the personal information about your Bible Student's to others?

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  some witnesses seem to revel in the suffering of others.

  they have a bible study and they tell everyone in the congregation all their personal confidences ie: how many times divorced, whether they are using drugs, how many kids they have and who the fathers are and if they are on welfare etc.

  man, i tried hard not to.

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  Bungi Bill

  It is sad but true that this seems to be the rule rather than the exception amongst the JWs.

  - it certainly was the case in most of the congregations that I was with.

  What the congregation did not know about your "studies" they did their damnest to prise out of you!

  Bill.
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  Going door to door to recruit members doesn't work

  by JH in

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  when you look at all the hours they do going door to door world wide and then you look at how many hours preaching it takes to bring just 1 person to their organization, it's not efficient.. my mom goes to a baptist church now, and i was surprised to know that 500 go to that meeting on sundays and they don't go door to door to go get these people.. there might be 80 witnesses at my hall and going door to door doesn't make much of a difference.

  maybe it's even counter productive since people don't like being pested at home..

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  More than anything else, the "Field Service" is a stick with which to beat the Rank and File with.

  I can recall an elder once as good as saying such;

  - only he phrased it as "the best measure we have of determining his or her level of spirituality."

  As if that square on the Monthly Field Service Report Form, entitled "Hours", bears any resemblance to spirituality!

  Bill
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  I destroyed @30 jw's today in field service

  by JunkYardDog in

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  2 wt zombies came to my door today.

  and i opened a can of woop a$$ on them.. i did the whole history of wt false prophecies on them and asked them to show me the gospel of 1914?

  they couldn't and i followed them up and down the street proclaiming they were false teachers and couldn't talk their way out of a paper bag with a knowledgeable apostate.

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  They certainly don't put up much resistance:

  - most seem totally incapable of doing so with anybody that knows anything about the bible ;let alone someone familiar with the history of the WTS.

  All the ones who have come to my door cannot wait to disengage themselves and flee out the gate, as soon as they realize that I am "not receptive." In fact the last lot gave the impression of actually being relieved to have an excuse to bolt for it!

  Around here, though, chasing them down the street and giving them an earful would achieve little:

  - Apart from fuelling that persecution complex the Dubs already have in abundance, all onlookers would regard you as just one more raving fanatic.

  (This from somebody, who, early in his break with the JWs, was inclined to cut up rough at the mere mention of their name!)

  Bill.
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  beards are from satan!

  by Adrianoblue in

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  it is illegal to wear a beard.

  (matthew 24:45-47).

  but it is legal to wear a mustache.

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  Bungi Bill

  I have heard it suggested - and knowing how obsessed about control the WTS is, I could believe it - that this thing about beards came in after the death of CT Russell.

  To emphasize that HE was now running the show - and not the goatee bearded (and incidentally, also long haired) Charles Russell - J F Rutherford invented this nonsense about beards;

  - "Worldly," " Rebellious," "Immature, " "Distracting to our message,"Dirty", "Not groomed like a minister" (Load of BS, that one - you ought to see how men are groomed at the local Baptist Church around where I live!)

  - Oblivious to the fact that many prominent business and professional men wear beards. (I was remided of that one recently, while working at a hospital, in which many of the leading medical specialists in the state are based. More of those men were bearded than were clean-shaven).

  - Disregarding also how the majority of men in the community might be groomed. For example, in Papua New Guinea, it is usual for a man to wear a beard (That county's current Prime Minister wears a full beard). Yet, the WTS insists that all 'brothers" in PNG, also, must not wear a beard.

  All about control - which, unfortunately, is all too typical of religion in general.

  Bill.
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  I can spot JW's a mile away....

  by lalaa in

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  so earlier today i was having lunch with my sister when 3 ladies walked in to the restaurant.

  one in her early 20's..one in her late 30's early 40's and the last one maybe somewhere in her 50's.

  when i looked up and glanced at them i said to my sister that i bet those are jw's since they were all dressed in service clothes.

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  Bungi Bill

  The JW men are very easy to spot around here, as:

  (i) nobody else but Mormons and JWs ever wear ties.

  (ii) Mormons are the only ones who wear white shirts.

  Whether intentional or not:

  - a guy wearing a coloured shirt and a tie , walking along the street with a bookbag under his arm; telegraphs in plain language what he is up to.

  What now bothers me most is that I, too, once looked looked exactly like that!

  Bill.
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  "Lone Ranger Christianity"

  by leavingwt in

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  some may enjoy this thread at the channel c forum.

  by jim penton, it's about what he calls, "lone ranger christianity".

  there are quite a few responses there, in the ongoing discussion.. .

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  Bungi Bill

  The WTS would not like (does not like) that idea:

  - impossible to control the R & F that way!

  Our family ran up against this issue very early in the piece, as we lived fifty miles from the nearest congregation.

  Quickly, the elders were pressing my father to give up his employment - which was a secure, well paying job; and for a company he had been with for over 20 years - just so he could move in closer to the congregation. (The better to control him that way).

  Lucky for my father, he saw through that one, and told the elders to go to the "Far Queue" with that suggestion!

  I was less fortunate than he, and fell for it - to my detriment

  Bill
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  "Before the Generation ... of 1914 Passes Away"

  by doinmypart in

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  that quote must be embarrassing for the wts, so i figured i'd post it.

  it appeared on the inside cover of every awake magazine until a few years ago.. a few weeks ago i attended the funeral of someone born in 1916, she was 94 years old.

  i don't know anyone born before or on 1914.. governing body are you ashamed?

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  Ultimate Reality:

  What you quoted just then is an excellent piece of of creative accounting!

  Blondie,

  I well remember that particular "Awake" article in May of 1969;

  - Unfortunately, I once believed what it said.

  Then, for too long after that, I kept on trying to still believe in what it had said;

  - the major reason my life has been so #&%@ed up.

  Bill.